Takeaways
- Chey has been in education for nearly 14 years and is passionate about improving it.
- Technology can help reduce the cognitive load on educators.
- AI can support early childhood educators in their documentation tasks.
- Chey's introduction to software development was through curiosity and trial and error.
- No-code tools have made it easier for non-developers to create software solutions.
- Dopamine plays a crucial role in how we learn and retain information.
- The future of education will require creativity and interpersonal skills.
- Building a community around your product can lead to better outcomes.
- Overcoming fear is essential for pursuing entrepreneurial ventures.
- Learning is a journey, and there is no such thing as failure.
Chapters
00:00
Passion for Education and Technology
05:12
Challenges in Early Childhood Education
09:49
Journey into Software Development
14:56
Learning and Neuroscience in Education
19:57
The Future of Skills and Education
25:04
Building Community and Brand Awareness
29:59
Overcoming Fear and Taking Action
People, Companies, and Organizations
- Chey
Early childhood educator turned NoCode founder of QIPd, EduBuddy, and Diversioned. Podcast guest. - Miss Chey (TikTok)
Chey’s TikTok persona; primary platform where she built community and tested ideas for her apps. - Divergent Education
Chey’s business and personal brand focused on building AI tools for educators. - QIPd
A collaborative AI-powered documentation platform Chey built for early childhood educators. - EduBuddy
An AI assistant trained on education regulations to support compliance and clarity for teachers. - Bubble
NoCode development platform used by Chey to build her first functional app. - Glide
NoCode tool that Chey found intuitive and used to build and test early versions of QIPd. - WordPress
The first tool Chey used when entering web development, before switching to NoCode. - Google
Mentioned by Chey as an underrated tool for problem-solving and learning without formal training. - Canva
Used by Chey to describe NoCode: “It’s like Canva but for building apps.” - TikTok
Chey’s most powerful growth channel where she co-created her product with her audience. - Facebook Reels
Mentioned as less positive for community feedback compared to TikTok. - ChatGPT / OpenAI
Used by Chey for learning (e.g. quantum physics) and powering EduBuddy. - Rosebud AI
Referenced as a tool for kids to learn coding by prompting games—example of creative education tech. - Montessori, Vygotsky, Chomsky
Influential education theorists referenced by Chey when discussing traditional vs. neuroscience-based learning. - Sham Puri
Content creator quoted for saying, “The best thing you can do is your unique self.” - Wikipedia Law
Referenced principle: it’s easier to get feedback when something exists, even if imperfect.
Frameworks & Strategies
- Build in Public
Chey co-developed her app by sharing early prototypes on TikTok and gathering direct feedback from educators—co-creating with her target audience.
Learn more → Indie Hackers Guide
- Dopamine-Driven Learning
Based on neuroscience, Chey explains how dopamine—the brain’s reward chemical—is key to engagement and memory retention in learning, especially when learners are emotionally invested.
Learn more → Scientific American
- Community-Led Product Strategy
Instead of guessing what users needed, Chey asked her TikTok audience directly. This user-first approach ensured the product solved real problems.
Learn more → OpenView Partners
- Human-Centered AI Design
Chey emphasized AI as a support tool—not a replacement—for educators, reducing cognitive load while keeping the human experience central.
Learn more → IDEO Design for AI
- Digital Transformation in Education
The episode touches on the shift from analog documentation and compliance to digital tools, highlighting how AI and automation can enhance rather than overwhelm educational environments.
Learn more → McKinsey: Education Tech
- Rote Learning vs. Modern Learning Models
Critique of traditional classroom rote learning and discussion of emerging 21st-century models that prioritize creativity, problem-solving, and digital literacy.
Learn more → OECD Future of Education
- Content-First Branding via TikTok
Chey strategically (and organically) used TikTok to grow an audience, test ideas, and validate products—all before launching a formal brand.
Learn more → TikTok for Business
